• The Free Penguin@lemmygrad.ml
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        2 years ago

        No, actually.

        1. He is holding political prisoners (Kononovyč brothers)
        2. He has banned multiple opposition parties
        3. He is continuing the Majdanite ban on the KPU and communist symbols.
        4. He suspended elections “until the war is over” and also stated “the war won’t be over until he takes Krym” Krym is rather deep in Russia’s territory by now and Zelenśkyj has trouble with Donbass let alone Krym. This boils down to “Zelenśkyj suspended elections indefinitely.” The Majdan regime is a literal fascist regime, attacking Russians and communists. (I’m not saying to support Russia either, although a lot of people on LG would say to support Russia)
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                Those people prefigured the situation, much like the US founders created the structural framework for disenfranchisement, racial capitalism, and global imperialism. We can’t take it up with them, we just need to assess it soberly. Contemporaries do not get free passes merely because the precursors were created by now-dead peope

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                  That’s all well and good, but they’re under attack by Putin, a Nazi who accuses everyone of nazism. Opening elections at this point would just encourage idiots to vote for their oppressors.

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                    a Nazi who accuses everyone of nazism.

                    Is this projection?

                    Opening elections at this point would just encourage idiots to vote for their oppressors.

                    Being anti-democracy and calling more than half of ukrainian people idiots, typical westerner behavior.

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          If their communists are anything like the swedish ones they are just “tankies”. They’ll love russia and china with the reasoning that they are “not usa” and therefore automatically good. This has been a huge issue for the european “far”-left for ages.

          Most of what you listed is just attributably to being at war. Elections are impossible to hold during war and the crimea-thing is just posturing at this point which mean very little.

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            Elections are impossible to hold during war.

            Historically, no.

            and the crimea-thing is just posturing at this point which mean very little.

            You should go in the middle of Kiev and shout this. Pretty soon, some armed thugs will pull up, strip you, beat you up, throw green paint on you then tie you on a street lamp and piss on you. It’s not posturing.

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            Since I am a Swedish communist and know plenty of them, I feel it might fall on me to say that you are just being ignorant and judgmental. There has been a fair share of naivety in the ranks of the left wing parties in Sweden, but that was much more notable during the 1970’s than it is today. I don’t know any communist or socialist in Sweden that argues in such simplistic terms like “not USA is automatically good”, that’s just an insane claim to make. And while we’re at it, most of the western world seem to agree that “not-Russia is automatically good” with all the head-in-the-sand shit the west is pulling over Ukraine. I believe you are touting prejudice against communists, like so many before you have done. It doesn’t do anyone any good.

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            Yes it’s such an issue for the European left to have people with principles, who are right all the time and can think beyond elections to enact change.

            Don’t make me laugh, social Democrats would sooner vote with the far right to prevent the actual left from winning elections.

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              I’m not arguing, I’m just honestly asking questions. Why is NATO imperialistic? From my perspective, they are trying to help an independent country defend itself from people who are trying to take it from them by force.

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                NATO actively pushed the Ukrainians into this war, because what is happening here is a proxy war. NATO, US and EU officials openly admit this, and even brag about it.

                This war didn’t start in 2022. It started in 2012 with the Maidan coup.

                Furthermore, if you think NATO is not an imperialist organization, then I don’t think you’ve been following what has been going on in the world since its inception.

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                  I’m still a bit confused. It was Ukraine that was attacked by Russia and needed to defend itself. How did NATO push them into war?

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                    How did NATO push them into war?

                    In Cold War, NATO was created basically to fight communism, in time it envolved to fight any “non-aligned” country (any country that wasn’t in the USA’s sphere of “influence”, or trying to leave it). In 1991 USSR was forcedly dissoveld, against the will of most people, according to a referendum. In the occasion, USA signed serious agreements in Minsk (search for Minsk agreements) that included a commitment that NATO would not extend its frontiers a single meter in Russia direction; that was broken several times. In 2014 Ukrainian legitmate government fell due a midiatic coup (search for Euromaindan), supported by NATO. Since then, far-right, neo-nazi groups are oppressing the Russian speaking people of Ukraine, mainly in the region of Donbass. So, in 2021 Ukraine’s newly elected government, who in the campaign demonstrated will of return diplomatic relations with Russia, that were almost inexistent since 2014, suddenly turn it’s cloak and demonstrated will of to enter in NATO. That’s a resume of history. If you really want to know things you need to do your own research. Nobody’s has obligation to teach you anything, even more information that’s public domain.

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            I’m not even anti-NATO or anti-Selensky, but man this is naive. NATO is a political tool like any other organisations funded by nations.