i am confident that everyone in this discussion understands technically what is happening. the contention is, for reasons i cannot comprehend, that apparently “connects to and cannot function without the internet” is somehow the same as “offline”.
I’m not sure if people are purposefully being ignorant, but this shit is crazy…
There’s a serious difference between having an entire application in a cloud environment (office365) and an entire application on your local PC (office) with the inability to save locally… That’s not a server/client setup.
For the life of me I cannot understand why everyone here is being seemingly as disingenuous as possible. It’s honestly fucked up.
It’s not disingenuous. There’s multiple definitions of “offline” being used here, and just because some people aren’t using yours doesn’t mean they’re ignorant or arguing in bad faith.
Your definition of “offline” is encompassing just the executable code. So under that definition, sure, it’s offline. But I wouldn’t call an application “offline” if it requires an internet connection for any core feature of the application. And I call saving my document a core feature of a word processor. Since I wouldn’t call it “offline” I’m not sure what I would call it, but something closer to “local” or “native” to distinguish it from a cloud based application with a browser or other frontend.
A server/client solution is absolutely not offline. You need a connection to save your doc, I mean please.
microsoft released a single-player game, “microsoft office”.
it runs offline, but you cannot save games locally at all. can only save games or progress to the ‘cloud’.
i am confident that everyone in this discussion understands technically what is happening. the contention is, for reasons i cannot comprehend, that apparently “connects to and cannot function without the internet” is somehow the same as “offline”.
I’m not sure if people are purposefully being ignorant, but this shit is crazy…
There’s a serious difference between having an entire application in a cloud environment (office365) and an entire application on your local PC (office) with the inability to save locally… That’s not a server/client setup.
For the life of me I cannot understand why everyone here is being seemingly as disingenuous as possible. It’s honestly fucked up.
It’s not disingenuous. There’s multiple definitions of “offline” being used here, and just because some people aren’t using yours doesn’t mean they’re ignorant or arguing in bad faith.
Your definition of “offline” is encompassing just the executable code. So under that definition, sure, it’s offline. But I wouldn’t call an application “offline” if it requires an internet connection for any core feature of the application. And I call saving my document a core feature of a word processor. Since I wouldn’t call it “offline” I’m not sure what I would call it, but something closer to “local” or “native” to distinguish it from a cloud based application with a browser or other frontend.
If you can’t use it without a connection to the cloud, it’s cloud based.
What you mean by not cloud based is that it’s a native application rather than a webapp.
What others mean by not cloud based is that it can be used… Without the cloud being involved.
Can you define offline.
This is the argument you are purposely ignoring.