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  • There was a post made my Mozilla years ago (I’m too lazy to find it). It was in the shadow of Chrome getting more scummy. Anyway, paraphrasing horribly, the idea was that the humble web browser was starting to become an increasingly personal decision. It represents you in ways that many people may not fully appreciate, comprehend, or understand. Your browser history tells people what you like, what you are afraid of. Increasingly, it tells corporations and governments who you talk to, where you’re going, and what you’re up to.

    It’s why it’s important for a browser to be built for people, not for corporations.

    It’s so sad to see how far Mozilla has gone from that stance.

    So I get how challenging and annoying changing a browser is because in many ways, it’s you. It’s who you are. But, like in life, sometimes we must choose to leave the friends who bring us down. It hurts, it sucks. But it’s the way of life.

    I’ve spent a good part of this morning switching things over to Waterfox. It’s not perfect. There are gaps and for some reason, I can port over Chrome and Edge profiles but NOT firefox profiles. But sometimes a fresh start is good too.


  • The privacy centric way for Mozilla to have address this would have been to:

    • acknowledge laws in certain countries have changed
    • Due to those new laws, the definition of “sell” has changed and Firefox may no longer be in compliance with their desire to keep your data private
    • Commit their desire to take the necessary steps to keep new versions of Firefox in line with their original vision
    • update the “we will not sell” definition to within the jurisdiction of the United States, or indicate that the definition of sell may be different in different jurisdictions
    • make the necessary extensions to jurisdictions where they were “selling” user data, self reporting where necessary



  • Firefox is not a legal entity needing a license. Mozilla is.

    Firefox is a product, not a service.

    When I write notes in a book, I do not need to give the manufacturer of that book a license for my notes. If I mail that book to a friend, I do not need to give a license for that book to the post office.

    The only other software that I can think of that has taken a similar stance on TOS vs an open license is Microsoft and their VS Code product. Precompiled executables are license under a non-free (libre) license while the source code of VS Code remains under the MIT license.

    The original license of Firefox MPL2 allow end users to freely use the browser, with no license needed to give to Mozilla. Thousands of open source software who all use GPL, MPL, MIT, et al. allow users to use their software however they want. The proposed TOS does not and you must abide by their Acceptable Use Policies.

    Even if they require a license due to some legal reason, there is simply no reason why the license has to be a non-exclusive, perpetual license. If it really as they claim “to help you navigate the internet”, then the terms should explicitly say that, and not make it implicit.

    The fact is Mozilla doesn’t need a license for me to operate Firefox locally. Any copyright claim they are making is in bad faith because anything you type into the browser would be covered under fair use. They have yet to convince me why they need a license for me to operate a browser fully locally.

    The most likely reason why they are changing the license is because they want to start training AI data based on your browser habits. They may not be doing it now and they may say they have no plans to do it in the future. But the TOS, as currently written, gives them permission to do just that.


  • The only rule I have an “issue” with is rule #3.

    “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”

    Only one side cares about hypocrisy and it isn’t conservatives. Pointing it out doesn’t really provide meaningful parody, IMO.

    I think rule 5 should be clarified that there should be no news links. Memes to current events, I suspect, would be welcome.