Evilsandwichman [none/use name]

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Cake day: January 12th, 2021

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  • If I was to take Israelis seriously I would end up concluding that they’re generally very stupid, because if they’d granted Palestinians citizenship and just lived alongside them like modern day South Africa has become, all their problems disappear overnight; of course in reality it’s an extremely racist settler colonial nation and they have no desire to live alongside the people of the land they’ve invaded. I also daresay the Arab governments that are working with them are also very shortsighted; if they’d studied American history they would’ve seen that even in the US there were native American settlements who colluded with the settlers to bring down other native American (towns?), and even tried dressing like the settlers and converting to Christianity, only for the settlers to decide they wanted the land the ‘Americanized’ native Americans were living on and then killed them too (who now didn’t have the neighboring native Americans to help them…cause they helped massacre them). The map of greater Israel literally includes a large chunk of Saudi Arabia, one of their more important/strongest allies in the region.



















  • This was definitely a good read, but to quote something from a leftist friend of the author:

    It is not just Hamas, it’s all Gazans who agree that it’s OK to kill Jewish children, that this is a worthy cause … With Germany there was reconciliation, but they apologised and paid reparations, and what [will happen] here? We too did terrible things, but nothing that comes close to what happened here on 7 October. It will be necessary to reconcile but we need some distance.

    I’m sorry, are you comparing the Gazans who lived in an open air prison under horrific oppression to the Nazis? Gazans who were themselves refugees from violent expulsion? And how sure are you that so many Gazans agree that it’s okay to kill Jewish children? I’ve seen this insane sentiment so often from Isn’traelis it’s crazy; actually it’s either crazy or just projection, seeing as so many pissraelis have been vocalizing their desire to either kill Gazan children or for them to ‘die’ (the Western media way of telling you ‘murdered by the IDF’).

    Also, ‘We too did terrible things, but nothing that comes close to what happened here on 7 October’, ARE YOU DAMN SERIOUS?! IT ONLY DOESN’T COME CLOSE BECAUSE IT GOES THE OTHER WAY INTO FAR, FAR WORSE! PEOPLE HAD TO BE MURDERED FOR YOU TO HAVE THE LAND YOU’RE LIVING ON! THE SURVIVORS OF WHICH MAY ACTUALLY BE INCARCERATED IN THE PRISON OF GAZA! EVEN GAZA ALONE EVERY YEAR HAD HIGHER NUMBERS THAN 7 OCTOBER!

    THIS is what accounts for the Israeli left?!

    ‘It will be necessary to reconcile but we need some distance.’ translated as “Yes, we know things are difficult in Gaza right now, but we need time to get over this” he says while expecting Gazans to wait while bombs rain down on them and snipers shoot their children in the head and heart, double tapping to make sure they’re dead.

    Honestly even the author doesn’t seem to acknowledge the horrors of being on the receiving end of settler colonialism.

    This was a good read and I’m glad the author can see the horrors of how Israeli society is developing, and I certainly didn’t know so many people in the early 80’s actually wanted a country that made citizens of both Palestinians and Israelis (THIS is genuinely the best solution!), nor did I know that Yitzak Rabin, lauded as the guy who wanted a peaceful coexistence with Palestinians (though let’s not be mistaken here: the peace accords offered terrible conditions to the Palestinians) was the guy who gave the order during the first intifada (the peaceful one) to break the arms and legs of Palestinian youth. Nor did I realize that pirate captain Moshe Dayan was not blind in his one good eye to the injustice that had been done to the Palestinians with the occupation, having lived in Palestine before the Nakba, although clearly aware enough of the importance of propaganda to remove text from his speech that pointed out that Palestinians were victims and were rightfully angry.