So is Zelensky responsible for Russian deaths too?
So is Zelensky responsible for Russian deaths too?
So in your mind Zelensky is killing those people. Not the invading army? And you did not provide sources to claim that Zelensky is a “sadistic mass murderer” You provided two separate incidents that are being investigated.
There was a video posted literally a week ago of north koreans ‘rushing’ a Ukrainian stronghold and getting demolished out in the open. We have multiple, as in more than a dozen, statements by Russian personell, that their squads are suffering up to 90% losses. Bakhmut alone cost over 30.000 Russian lives.
Please enlighten me what the substantive difference between ‘industrial scale’ and ‘systematic and widespread’ is. Not enough conveyor belts and smokestacks?
Similarly, please point out to me what your exact issue is with the report I linked.
Also, citation needed that Zenz is a fascist. I found much criticism of him, but no credible allegation that he is a fascist.
If you can’t even read the first two paragraphs of your own source
Mediazona, in collaboration with BBC News Russian service and a team of volunteers, maintains a named list of deceased Russian military personnel. This list is compiled from verified, publicly available sources, including social media posts by family members, local news reports, and official announcements from regional authorities. This list is not exhaustive, as not every military death becomes public knowledge.
To provide a more comprehensive picture of the war’s impact, we offer a second figure: an estimate of excess mortality among men, based on Probate registry data. This method was developed in collaboration with Meduza, to address the limitations of relying solely on publicly reported deaths.
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The Commission previously found that Russian authorities had committed torture in seven provinces of Ukraine and in the Russian Federation. 32 It has continued to gather evidence of widespread and systematic use of torture by Russian authorities, in both Ukraine and the Russian Federation.
Literally the first report I opened.
Why doesn’t it make sense? For the same reason the normal person doesn’t enjoy torturing pets.
You sure are a “potential victim” of Ukrainian drafting. That’s why you spend your hours browsing the tankie instance of Lemmy. Yep. Yep.
If you really believe that Zelensky is committing “atrocities”, then surely you are in favor of removing the one reason why Zelensky is committing those “atrocities”. And also the reson he uses to “cheekily” stay in office by the by.
Ah, so if he’s not doing the atrocities personally then it’s all ok? Gotcha :)
Still dense, gotcha (:
I hope you aren’t implying that Zelensky is a victim? For him this war is literally the best thing that could ever happen to him - he gets to rule the xountry for as long as he wish, reveives billions from the west, travels around thr world telling stories about how hr protects the democracy, etc. The victims are Ukrainians whom he (well, his rehime if you want to differentiate those things for some reason…) confines, kidnaps, tortures and murders.
Yes comrade, I too beg my neighbouring country to invade me, so I can stay in power. I thank them every time I’m attending a funeral of one of my soldiers.
So?
I just love how at the start of your meaningless ramble you were “concerned” for Ukrainian victims. But as soon as it gets pointed out who really has the power to stop this invasion you feign ignorance… Or you’re really just that dense, that’s a possibility too of course.
How about UN reports? You can find them by simply googling.
Yes comrade, I too envision Zelensky personally pressimg a gun to the temple of every Ukrainian that refuses to get drafted. What a despicable behavior, to make out the victim of an invasion to be the perpetrator.
There is exactly one person that can end the invasion with the snap of a finger, and that person is Putin.
How about enough for a UN report on torture like for Russia you clown?
Woah… Holy shit, you actually said that… “kidnapping, torturing, killing” - literally what Zelensky’s regime is doing.
So you want to sell me one incident that is acknowledged and is being investigated as a gotcha to discredit the systematic and widespread torture the Russian state is employing? You really are dense.
Woah, other regimes are also gasing people and trying to set their cars on fire? They must be good ones.
And again, you want to sell me one incident that is being investigated as a gotcha to the illegal and widespread use of tear gas by Russia in this war? Not beating my accusation there, you are.
“Save lives” are you dense? Russia is kidnapping, torturing, killing and deporting Ukrainians in the occupied regions on an industrial scale. Every time Russia retreated, mass graves and torture cbambers were found.
Ukraine is conscripting Ukrainians like any other country that has been attacked before it has done. The west could have equipped those poeple. The west could have trained those people. In fact, most Ukrainians that are currently dodging the draft are saying that they would let themselves get drafted, if they were properly equipped and trained. It’s in the west’s power to do that. They just don’t want to. Also, you just conveniently ignore the absolutely horrific losses the Russians are having with theirmeat wave assaults. But I guess in your world view, Zelensky is responsible for that too.
Go visit hexbear.net/PPB (nsfw) for a good reason why one might want to defederate from them.
Russia and Nazis?
Russia can claim whatever they like. They started this war. They started it in 2014 and they have escalated in 2022. Ukrainian Nazis weren’t and aren’t a big issue, certainly not as big as in Russia. The claims that Ukraine was suppressing ‘Russian minorities’ were completely fabricated. And why is it that that all post-soviet nations seem to be awfully eager to join NATO? Curious. It’s almost as if they fear being annexed by Russia. Luckily Russia isn’t currently fighting a war of aggression to annex a former soviet country, right?
I bet you’ll vote for Kamala then, to prevent Trump from making true what you fear will happen, surely.
It’s readily apparent that the US can do no good in your eyes. Maybe ask Dylan Burns for his opinion on the matter, if you want to hear from someone who’s actually on the ground.
Good. The US promised Ukraine they would defend them for giving up their Soviet nukes. Stop half-assing the support.
Since this was posted from a non-Lemmy/non-Mbin instance, I guess that the formatting works differently on their end. And Lemmy grabs the first line of posts without a title and makes that the title.