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If you’re using just raw LXC it’s easy…

lxc-create <<name>> -t oci -- --url docker://alpine:latest

Will spawn an alpine docker container for instance.

If you’re using something like proxmox though, it’s a little more annoying since there’s some work to get proxmox to add it to it’s container list.

Lxc doesn’t use oci images?

https://github.com/lxc/lxc/commit/0ef43a5c1d635835950335375f0dd71bf1abe384

It does.

Why bother asking for help if you’re not going to do the bare minimum of bringing us up to speed on what you’re running and how it’s configured. Just to be a complete jackass and “block” everyone the moment they ask for any of that information in order TO HELP YOU.

To this point the only facts we know…

Your running docker. You added two containers. One of which might be Hanabira. That were run via docker compose. SSH is working, but not… because you didn’t actually explain that well at all.

That’s it. That’s all you’ve provided and I had to literally read EVERY thread to find that. That’s all we got. Nobody can help you. And with people outright asking you for more, and your hostility in return to those trying to help you. Nobody else will want to help you. Including me.

Good luck. But I wanted you to know that you’re the jackass here.

It’s mildly funny though that you live up to your .ml instance preconceptions.

raise my 20-bay storage server.

I raise you my 72 bay monster… https://www.ebay.com/itm/126301431412

But I have 512 GB of ram in mine…

there is a easy way to synchronize your YouTube and PeerTube channel

No there isn’t anymore. yt-dlp, what all those syncing tools rely one, is basically fucked at this point. Youtube has made it fucking impossible to grab content off their platform and it’s really damn annoying. Even for my private IP address, I’ve earned what seems to be a permanent ban from Youtube.

Every video shows either this…

Or I login, and it only shows me the first 60 seconds of content before it just buffer loops forever

But I wouldn’t want to sync the content from youtube anyway… Youtube compresses the shit out of everything.

I get your point. It’s not hard for them to make a second post of the same video content to another platform. Many just don’t see the value in it. I agree that at least FUTO should see the point of putting it up… Hell I’m even willing to share the load in the bandwidth (with my own instance that’s currently up and running). Is what it is.

Well yeah… those are the only ones that matter.

Correct. It can’t go anywhere because you won’t acknowledge that a dockerfile is literally just a script. So arguing that one type of script is any different than any other type of script is just silly from the get-go. Not sure what point you’re trying to prove. Also, “one-off” literally linked you to a whole thing of “one-off” LXC containers and you still say dumb shit like this…

You can version LXC containers.

Every command (https://docs.docker.com/build/concepts/dockerfile/) is literally just an alias of something from linux bash anyway. So I’m really not understanding why you think there’s any difference here. It’s literally a dumbed down bash for one specific purpose.

I’m starting to think you just don’t know anything about docker. Or LXCs for that matter.

If so, that’s pathetic and weird.

Pathetic and weird is complaining about downvotes when they don’t even tally up anywhere. So not only were they meaningless to begin with, they’re not even as useful as they are on Reddit.

I did downvote, not because of disagreeing with me, but because

The issue with LXC is that it doesn’t set the software up for you.

is factually wrong in this context. You can absolutely distribute software in an LXC. I even pointed you directly at one such repository of hundreds of images that do exactly that. And they’re repeatable and troubleshoot-able all the same. The script that a dev would publish would be doing literally the same exact thing as a dockerfile.

A dockerfile is just a glorified script. Treating it as if it’s something different is intellectually dishonest. Anything in a docker can be edited/modified the same as an LXC. docker exec -it <> /bin/bash puts a user in the same position as being in an LXC container. Once again. Aside from some additional networking stuff, Docker was literally based on LXC and is more or less functionally the same. Even in their own literature they only claim that they’ve enhanced LXC by adding management to it… (https://www.docker.com/blog/lxc-vs-docker/) Except Proxmox can manage an LXC just fine… LXD as well.

As far as CI/CD stuff… It works on LXC containers as well… Here’s an example from 3 years ago that I found literally in 10 seconds searching for LXC ci/cd https://gitlab.com/oronomo/docker-distrobuilder.

Also you can even take a DOCKERFILE and other OCI compliant images and push them directly into an LXC natively. https://www.buzzwrd.me/index.php/2021/03/10/creating-lxc-containers-from-docker-and-oci-images/ (Create LXC containers using docker images section).

like pretty much the entire development community does?

This is also a bullshit appeal/fallacy. The VAST majority of development communities don’t use ANY form of containerization. It’s only a subset that works on cloud platforms that now push into it… It’s primarily your exposure to self-hosted communities that makes you believe this. But it’s far (really far) from true. Most developers I work with professionally have no idea what docker is other than maybe have heard about it from somewhere or another. It’s people like me who take their shit and publish it into a container and show them that they understand and learn more about it. And even in that environment, production tends to not be in docker at all (usually kubernetes, Openshift, Rancher, or other platforms that do not use the Docker Runtime) but that choice is solely up to the container publisher.

I didn’t like docker for the longest time

Good for you? I see docker as a useful tool for some specific stuff. But there’s very few if any cases where I would take Docker over an LXC setup, even in production. I don’t hate or love docker (or LXC for that matter). However… I find I get better performance, lower overhead, and better maintainability with LXC. So that’s what I use. I don’t delude myself that LXCs are somehow not containers… and that Docker does anything different than any other container platform.

They did… That’s why there’s timestamps in the description.

helper-scripts.com

Docker doesn’t setup anything for you either without a dockerfile (which is literally just a list of commands to setup the docker container).

There’s no reason that a script cannot be used in the exact same way for an LXC container. To that point… There’s already a repo of stuff to do exactly that. Which I’ve linked above.

Edit:

A docker is a distribution method for the software, not the operating system

And yet most docker containers first lines are something line “FROM Alpine”… Much the same that an LXC would be. Last I checked Alpine is an OS…

Keep in mind that docker used to be based on LXC… and they fulfill virtually the same niche, outside of Docker having more obfucated shit for networking (specifically inter-container networking).

It’s funny because I view LXC’s the same. They’re more practical than both VMs and dockers to me. Outside of community-scripts though, it seems most people don’t like LXC’s nearly as much as I do…

those tremendous amounts are not that big because with PeerTube you share the bandwidth with other instances

I have 8gbps, I’m perfectly willing to federate with Futo’s instance and take some of (if not all of) the load for this video. But I don’t think they peer with that many other people. At 15mbps that’s about 500 people watching simultaneously.

I agree I’d like to see it on peertube for sure.

You underestimate how much knowledge it actually takes to do selfhosting stuff. To truly explain things. This stuff is clearly aimed at really low prerequisite knowledge people. It’s only with pre-req knowledge that you can skip out on a lot of content. This is the exact same complaint I got when I was teaching certain 100 level courses at a major university… 135 hours of coursework just to get students to a baseline competence on a number of introductory topics for IT… 14 hours for basic self-hosting knowledge is likely not enough to actually be sufficient either (which is likely why they specifically hamstring the options and go straight for using just one specific software)… But it takes time to explain all the items that goes into everything you need to know for self-hosting.

The fact that you’re already aware of what Docker is means that this video and wiki were already a “miss” for you.

Douyin isn’t tiktok

Because China doesn’t allow Tiktok as we have it. They understand it’s a plague and enforce that it should not exist. So no shit you’re not going to fine the Chinese Tiktok look like our tiktok. That’s literally what I said. FFS.

Tiktok isnt a Chinese company

Bytedance owns it. There is a 20% direct stake by the OG Chinese owners, weird… Original owners are Chinese… and you think their government doesn’t have some say? By Chinese law the owners must give China whatever the fuck China wants (yay communism!). Further, Chinese officials have a seat on the company board. Weird for a 1% stake owner to have a seat on the board.

ByteDance agreed in 2021 to allow the Chinese government to take a 1% ownership stake known as a “golden share” at one of its China-based subsidiaries

Weird that a public international company would just allow a government to take ownership stake from them. Huh… totally not chinese though! Chinese owners, direct ownership stake by China (against the remaining owners will, as nobody would willingly give a government ownership of their company that they have majority share in).

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/mar/15/brian-kilmeade/who-owns-tiktok-despite-what-brian-kilmeade-says-i/

I’m so tired of people not calling a spade a spade. You believe what you want. You’ll never be convinced otherwise regardless.

No. Tiktok in China is a completely different app. China doesn’t allow tiktok in the form we have it.

The frequency is probably just an easy one to build magnetrons for.

The real reason is that that range is reserved for consumer devices so that it doesn’t interfere with actual ISM sanctioned communications as enforced by the FCC. We just also decided to put wifi in the same range cause they’re stingy releasing frequencies for public use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISM_radio_band#Frequency_allocations

But research was done on it cause of course it has been.

https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0031-9120/39/1/006

This article deals with the generation of microwaves in the oven and includes the operation of the magnetrons, waveguides and standing waves in resonant cavities. It then considers the absorption of microwaves by foods, discussing the dielectric relaxation of water, penetration depths of electromagnetic waves in matter and, in considering the possible chemical changes during the microwave heating, multi-photon ionization or dissociation.

So you’re likely right that it’s not water resonance, but chassis cavity resonance. I can’t say that I’ve read deeply into it. And thinking about it I remember hearing something about some of the high level stuff that I just read in relation to this article. I probably ran into it in passing and just failed to recall it. But to be frank, I’m okay just calling it voodoo wizardry in of itself. But I have to understand wireless communications stuff for my profession, and it’s well known that it’s basically the same range as wifi 2.4ghz/bluetooth/other consumer standards that sit in the same crowded space.

Most of the hardware itself was free(business decommissioned) or auction wins (4.5TB of ram out of a $600 auction, selling some servers paid the whole auction off). So quite cheap in that respect. And it’s not strictly private use. Lots of functions in there to keep my business going/make it easier to track taxes/auto billing clients/email/etc. Though only typically operationally, not as an income generator itself (eg, not hosting other companies stuff so much).

And yeah, if energy was 10x more expensive (I think it was you or someone else that said $0.60 per kWh?) I’d probably rethink my situation/stance a bit.

But 3kW service is awfully low. Standard around here is 200amp service to a house (at 120v, so 24kVA service), 100amp (12kVA) if you have gas utilities handling range/heating, as A/C is heavily required where I live. My PV setup is rated 15.9kW, though caps out at 11kW on the best days. I can’t imagine living off of 3kW. My desktop uses 1/10th of that. My idle usage in my house minus the servers is ~2kW. I can see why you’re squeezing Watts. Some googling shows Italy being a country that does this… You probably are in similar situation as them where A/C isn’t really common, heating and cooking isn’t electric based, etc… Most of the year I’m not allowed to even make a fire, so I’m forced to rely on electricity.

But no SUV here… 1 hybrid sedan for this family of 4. Gas costs too much and we drive too little.

And here I am with a 5 server cluster, 2x custom servers running opnsense for redundancy (8gbps internet connection needs real horsepower for IDS/firewall/routing), and a 36 bay storage truenas node… that’s getting upgraded to 72 bay version for more drives (34 additional drives ready for install RIGHT NOW)… I see your 50 and 38 W… and raise you

This

2200-ish watts? Oh… and cooling the servers to keep them to about 75 degrees intake temp.

So really closer to 3400 watts.

Taking your numbers of 6 watts saved per drive would only save me 180w currently and 432w after I install the additional 32 drives next week. I’d still be in the 3kW territory.

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I also have solar…

I generate (orange) enough to export (purple) a little during the day… but that’s about it… Battery (light green) usage just kills peak hours.

The electrical usage costs me about $100-110 a month in electricity after solar ($0.06 per kWh), probably closer to $150 if solar wasn’t eating up a bunch of it. Less than subscriptions to all the shit that I’m hosting for myself by a long long shot. Forget the family and other users.

It may very well be. However, with how matter-of-factly you said it, some people might not think it’s a joke.