I’d like my corpse to be used to frame someone for murder. Obviously I can’t name names, because that would undermine the plot, but I trust my loved ones to frame up someone who has it coming.

Treat others the way you would want others to treat you.

Which, interestingly, is also in the Pirkei Avot! The old rabbis were definitely onto something.

The other really famous saying from the Pirkei Avot is also relevant now:

If I am not for myself, who is for me? And being for my own self, what am ‘I’? And if not now, when?"

Same goes if you’re obviously white but have family members who are not.

I’m not going to go through this point by point. Some of it I think is probably about right and some not. What I will say is that I don’t think it’s consistent to say people were crying wolf over Trump, who tried to overthrow one election and would have done the same with this one had he lost, and then in the same place to suggest that a Harris win would’ve resulted in the end of democracy based entirely on a loosely defined notion of elitism.

My point was that if the man is still ‘armed’, he hasn’t been ‘disarmed’, he just has one less (type of) gun. For example, if I told you that there was a man in my street with two guns, and then added that he’d now been disarmed (forcibly or otherwise), you would assume that he now had zero guns.

The fact that he didn’t call them trash is the salient point here.

I mean, apart from anything else, the word he used, whatever it was applied to, was ‘garbage’.

disarm

If a man had an assault rifle and a handgun, and he put down the assault rifle, would you describe him as ‘unarmed’? If so, I don’t think you can describe removing assault rifles as ‘disarming’ people.

No, he didn’t. Both the context and the grammar make it clear that my interpretation is correct. Even if you interpret it unsumpathetically, the inference that it’s ‘all’ Trump supporters is something you’ve added.

Any Trump supporter pretending to be offended by what Biden didn’t actually say is in any case a massive hypocrite, because Trump built his political career on being offensive. They can’t turn around now and act all offended unless they also repudiate Trump.

He didn’t. “The only garbage I see is his supporter’s” garbage, i.e, it’s the possessive “'s”. The clue here is ‘is’, singular. If he meant a group of people, he’d have said ‘are’, plural.

Anyway, Trump called the whole country a garbage can, so if you’re so desperately offended by your misunderstanding of Biden’s comments, I guess you’re also pretty torn up about Trump’s actual comments, right?

Missing the vital context that Trump keeps praising Hitler, and that’s the reason people are making the comparison.

Like I’ve said, it’s not a matter of owing her votes. I just think that you shouldn’t use your vote in a way that will make things worse.

I’ve not ascribed any views to you beyind what you’ve said here, and I’d appreciate if you didn’t do the same to me. I don’t think you support Trump, but it is a fact that your current plans make a Trump win more likely. It’s precisely because I don’t believe you support Trump (and in particular what he’d do in Gaza) that I think you should reconsider that plan.

Anyway, we’re going round in circles here. Unless you can show to me that voting for Stein will have something other than a wholly negative outcome for Gaza or anywhere else, I’m not going to change my view that it’s a mistake for you to do so.

And if she doesn’t, you’ll use your vote to make things worse? As I say, doesn’t make a lot of sense to me.

In fairness to the guy, he has now responded.

I’m not assuming that you are inclined to vote for Harris - you’ve made it clear that you are not!

What I’m saying is that the course of action you’re advocating (voting for Jill Stein) can only have the opposite outcome to the one you want (because it will lead to the election of Donald Trump and a still worse situation in the Middle East). This being the case, you should reconsider your course of action.

And just to add to your point: it’s not hypothetical that Trump would destabilise the Middle East, because he actually did so in his first term by giving de facto recognition to Jerusalem as the Israeli capital and by unilaterally tanking the Iran deal in exchange for nothing. The current situation is already partially Trump’s fault and, as you say, he will only make it worse if he wins.

Here’s a member of the Stein campaign saying they know they can’t win and want Harris to lose: ‘We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic. We could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan.’ This is straight from the Stein campaign. Not ‘MSM Democrat propaganda’ at all, but the Stein campaign itself acknowledging that they can’t win and that what they mean by ‘winning’ is Harris losing - which entails Trump winning.

Again, you can blame anyone you like for this, but if you vote for Stein, the consequences for Gazans will be worse. To do so is, per your own values, nonsensical.

Jill Stein’s platform is, explicitly, not to win but to cause Harris to lose. Harris losing means Trump winning. Trump winning will be even worse for Gaza (and Ukraine, the US, and the rest of the world).

If your red line is Gaza, but your refusal to cross that line will make things in Gaza worse, it is straightforwardly the case that your tactics are wrong. ‘I cannot condone X, so I’m going to do something that can only make X even worse’ is not a position you can hold.

Jill Stein’s party is explicitly fighting to help Trump win. Stein is a pro-Trump spoiler. Voting for her is about the most self-defeating thing anyone who believes in democracy could do, short only of voting for Trump.

If you’d like to keep voting at all, I’d suggest voting for the Democrats this time!