More abuse of this post for testing PieFed user mentions (sorry if you seeing this). Other direction this time.

@andrew_s@piefed.social

Back again, as reply to post: @andrew@pythag.net, @sfc@pythag.net

EDIT: autocomplete was originally messed up, but this shows Mentions as raw and filled in by Lemmy’s UI (both are clickable on PieFed, and this edit shouldn’t notify anyone again)

okay

Remote comment that doesn’t get a Mention until the edit (although it’ll have to be to andrew, 'cos I replied with the wrong account).

Edit: @andrew@pythag.net

Cool. Paging you (although you should only get one notification): @andrew@pythag.net
Also: paging @sfc@pythag.net

Neat. Just have to do it the other way now.

@sfc@pythag.net

It’s the crawler at lemmyverse that’s down - https://data.lemmyverse.net/ shows that it hasn’t updated in 11 days

Yeah, I know what you mean. That note is misleading, and kinda redundant too - you can physically de-select Undetermined in the UI, but the change won’t actually take if you press ‘Save’.

Most likely reason is that you unticked ‘English’ as a language you understand when you were playing around.

It’s alright. It didn’t sound like that. I don’t mind investigating if the bot is misbehaving (and I occasionally get the satisfaction of finding out that it’s not)

They come from lemmyverse.net (specifically the JSON file that’s provided every 6 hours at data.lemmyverse.net)

If you want to track growth yourself, you’d need to do what the bot does, and download that file every time.

As for your community, are you talking about ‘Nowhere else to share’? ('cos that’s appeared loads - last Thursday and Friday, for example)

“active users” are defined by lemmy: posts + comments + votes

The bot is trying to catch upwards trend in the amount of active users. This tends to be communities that were dead or fairly dead, and then one or two posts got some engagement and spiked the number up.

In terms of absolute active numbers, there’s no need for a bot because lemmy can tell you that. The bigger communities tend to swing up and down in terms of activity (cancelling themselves out).

For example, tenforward@lemmy.world had 65 posts this week, but active users ended up pretty much where it was. The table below has 28 entries as the crawler at lemmyverse usually reports 4 times a day, so it’s for about 7 days:

Might be some rogue results for lemmy.world for a few days: for some communities there’s been a bit of lag (from using the old measurement for active growth to the new one, and/or for the crawler at lemmyverse to pick up on the change)

I’ve been using users_active_month for Active Users but it doesn’t seem to really update often enough (e.g. !badrealestate@feddit.uk had some activity in the 3rd week of February, but the UAM stat didn’t change until 1st of March). I tried running the bot with users_active_day, but that’s bit too dynamic - there’d be days will very few entries on if I used that. So I’ve compromised on users_active_week … we’ll see how that works out.

Edited to account for sh.itjust.works update

Have been rewriting the bot lately. Latest results using new version:

Subscriber Growth

!helldivers2@lemmy.ca, Helldivers 2, 4 => 37, 17 posts (15 this week)
!leaky_cauldron@diagonlemmy.social, The Leaky Cauldron, 20 => 72, 22 posts (14 this week)
!insanepeoplefacebook@lemmy.world, InsanePeopleFacebook, 1271 => 1420, 117 posts (23 this week)
!shrinkflation@lemmy.ca, Shrinkflation, 88 => 117, 9 posts (2 this week)
!debunkthis@lemmy.world, DebunkThis, 903 => 988, 12 posts (1 this week)
!anime@ani.social, Anime, 791 => 865, 550 posts (54 this week)
!pathfinder@ttrpg.network, pathfinder, 44 => 62, 7 posts (3 this week)
!forgottenweapons@lemmy.world, Forgotten Weapons, 1179 => 1265, 423 posts (16 this week)
!diwhy@lemmy.world, DiWHY, 1108 => 1185, 25 posts (3 this week)
!lightnovels@ani.social, Light Novels, 28 => 41, 12 posts (3 this week)
!antitrumpalliance@lemmy.world, AntiTrumpAlliance, 205 => 234, 148 posts (15 this week)
!coolguides@lemmy.ca, Cool Guides, 2711 => 2813, 204 posts (4 this week)
!historyporn@lemmy.world, HistoryPorn, 3230 => 3331, 521 posts (9 this week)
!right2repair@discuss.tchncs.de, Right to Repair, 805 => 851, 33 posts (2 this week)
!technology@lemmy.world, Technology, 51228 => 51591, 7434 posts (207 this week)
!protonprivacy@lemmy.world, Proton, 3660 => 3754, 167 posts (8 this week)
!microblogmemes@lemmy.world, Microblog Memes, 3524 => 3614, 474 posts (23 this week)
!unix_surrealism@lemmy.sdf.org, unix_surrealism, 596 => 631, 212 posts (9 this week)
!aneurysmposting@sopuli.xyz, Aneurysm Posting, 958 => 1001, 102 posts (6 this week)
!gaming@lemmy.world, Gaming, 1835 => 1895, 194 posts (11 this week)
!lemmybewholesome@lemmy.world, Lemmy Be Wholesome, 4621 => 4715, 199 posts (8 this week)
!science@lemmy.world, science, 12199 => 12348, 682 posts (25 this week)
!imaginarydragons@leminal.space, Imaginary Dragons, 175 => 193, 47 posts (9 this week)
!israelpalestine@jlai.lu, Conflit Israelo-Palestinien, 8 => 12, 77 posts (34 this week)
!buttcoin@awful.systems, Buttcoin, 113 => 127, 36 posts (6 this week)

Active User Growth

!twoxchromosomes@slrpnk.net, TwoXChromosomes, 83 => 1157, 79 posts (1 this week)
!pics@aussie.zone, Pictures, 6 => 169, 69 posts (5 this week)
!antiwork@slrpnk.net, Antiwork, 109 => 379, 31 posts (1 this week)
!palestine@lemmy.ca, palestine news and politics, 133 => 449, 173 posts (76 this week)
!weirdnews@real.lemmy.fan, Weird News - Things that make you go ‘hmmm’, 634 => 1213, 64 posts (19 this week)
!python@programming.dev, Python, 306 => 634, 336 posts (4 this week)
!edc@sopuli.xyz, Everyday Carry. What essentials do you carry on a daily basis?, 103 => 292, 160 posts (3 this week)
!warframe@dormi.zone, Warframe, 26 => 117, 436 posts (5 this week)
!facepalm@lemmy.world, Facepalm, 107 => 242, 31 posts (2 this week)
!microcontrollers@lemux.minnix.dev, MICROCONTROLLERS, 351 => 536, 395 posts (9 this week)
!television@lemmy.world, Television, 64 => 139, 198 posts (5 this week)
!kintelligenz@feddit.de, Künstliche Intelligenz, 15 => 60, 56 posts (1 this week)
!politics@lemmy.nz, NZ Politics, 135 => 264, 143 posts (15 this week)
!reddit@lemmy.world, Reddit, 315 => 452, 527 posts (20 this week)
!me_irl@lemmy.world, me_irl, 615 => 836, 205 posts (20 this week)
!saugumas@group.lt, (safe) Unsecure security, 54 => 128, 153 posts (7 this week)
!asklemmy@lemmy.world, Ask Lemmy, 4314 => 4869, 2326 posts (62 this week)
!noticias@lemmy.eco.br, Notícias, 162 => 279, 649 posts (28 this week)
!cybersecurity@sh.itjust.works, Cybersecurity, 27 => 69, 202 posts (16 this week)
!japaneselanguage@sopuli.xyz, Japanese Language, 119 => 204, 79 posts (1 this week)
!nostalgia@lemmy.ca, Nostalgia, 1817 => 2146, 72 posts (2 this week)
!movies@lemm.ee, movies, 747 => 956, 97 posts (20 this week)
!pissposting@lemmy.world, pissposting, 26 => 59, 220 posts (7 this week)
!cannabis@feddit.de, Cannabis, 153 => 231, 58 posts (6 this week)
!gauchisse@jlai.lu, Gauchiasses, 369 => 460, 464 posts (45 this week)

Change to the link format from now on, to also support mbin and other fediverse apps that may come along.

I didn’t do it like this before, because earlier versions of Jerboa didn’t understand this link type, and I don’t like that it repeats information - the name and the description are often the same, but not always, and the name can be hard to read, so the description needs to be there, but it’s often redundant. I can’t combine the description and link like [Hello Internet](!hellointernet@@feddit.uk) because lemmy will interpret that as link to a post for some reason.

I tested in the front-ends and mobile apps I have available, and they all work.

I’ve been resistant to changing it to this, and when mobile app users have said that they’re app didn’t support ‘/c/’ links, I’ve been “well, fix your app then”, but it turns out that all you have to do is say the magic words ‘Fediverse Interoperability!’ to me and you can win the argument.

I suspect that ActivityPub is too broad and too permissive for that. For every post on lemmy, it already sends out two different activities - one for lemmy, one intended for mastodon. On lemmy, a new post is a ‘Page’, on mastodon it’s a ‘Note’, on PeerTube it’s a ‘Video’. Lemmy understands all 3 (more or less), but my feeling is that if Fediverse apps are inter-acting well together, it’s largely because someone hacked it.

The thing the Fediverse most reminds me of is DLNA (aka uPnP Video) - it’s supposed to be universal, but if you ever saw the config for a DLNA server, you’d see it had to do different things for every different brand of client.

Fediverse communities don’t really exist - lemmy has communities, and other apps have things that are similar in some ways but not in others (e.g. mastodon groups, peertube channels, and mbin magazines). There’s lots of little differences that limit full interoperability, meaning that lemmy doesn’t have as much connection with the wider Fediverse as perhaps it should. This is more a subject best addressed by app developers than me. I can’t solve problems like that with a list of links.

In other areas, I’ve done what I can - I made a virtual lemmy community that natively features posts from mastodon accounts that haven’t even heard of lemmy. Pretty cool, I thought, but no-one gives a fuck. So I resent the idea that lemmy being closed-off in any way is something I’m indifferent to.

I just clicked the ‘search’ link I just made from lemmy.world, btw. The link to the actual community is 4th from the top, buried between cross-posts and mentions. Moreover, the likelihood that ‘search’ post work on every lemmy app is pretty low. Right now, these list work on any of the multitude of front-ends or mobile apps you can get for lemmy, which is a minor triumph in and of itself. Changing them to work for mbin would just break something else. Even if it didn’t, they’d work on lemmy and mbin, and then they’d be some new app (who haven’t hard-coded search in the same place) that they wouldn’t work for, and we’d be back at square one.

Oh, well, I don’t know when lemmy changed then (and presumably diverged from mbin) - this community’s been running and using the same link format for about 7 months.