House Democrats are known to be wary of playing any kind of role in shutting down the government. Hell, they hate being perceived as having even considered the idea that a government shutdown could do them political good.
During the 118th Congress, they routinely bailed out a narrow Republican majority when GOP lawmakers just couldn’t pass their own agenda. But now, in the age of Elon and DOGE and with the latest government funding deadline approaching and the House Republican majority as narrow and fractious as ever, there’s real skepticism that Democrats will save Republican leaders from their own failures.
Republican lawmakers certainly are concerned, as evidenced by the fact that they’re already blaming Democrats for not bailing them out.
“Republicans do not have the votes to keep government open on our own,” said Rep. Dusty Johnson (R-S.D.). “So if Democrats want to shut it down, they can.”
Such spin runs hard into some pretty obvious realities. As Rep. Rosa DeLauro (D-Conn.), the ranking Democrat on the Appropriations Committee, noted to The Bulwark, Republicans hold the agenda-setting White House, comfortably control the Senate, and maintain a House majority, their whisper-thin two-seat margin notwithstanding. With a governing trifecta come opportunities but also responsibilities.
“Who’s in charge? White House, House, and Senate,” DeLauro said. “They got it all. They got the trifecta. Where are they? They can’t govern.”
While Democrats still don’t want the perception of cheering on a shutdown, the party has also grown convinced that it must secure some concession from Republicans in any government funding arrangement. House Democrats aren’t eager to cut a deal with an administration that has thrown government contracts, appropriated funds, and whole agencies into a woodchipper without lawmakers’ input, let alone consent.
You’re really irrational arent you? 20 million people didnt bother to show up because democrats didnt offer them anything and actively showed they’re a toxic genocidal group. And two groups can be actively hostile simultaneously, its not like hostility is restricted to one entity at a time.
Just because people find you so disgusting they wont show up for you doesnt mean they in any way support an even more disgusting individual like trump.
You got stuck with trump because the democrats went mask off and people like myself are tired of dealing with you. so they stayed home. Now you got trump, a candidate who is giving his base exactly what they want and you get to enjoy it along with everyone else.
Take this as the lesson that it is: if you dont support left wing initiatives they can and will just go it alone because thats what we’ve been doing our entire lives. dealing with the problems you morons cause for everyone else.
If you want left wing votes make sure your candidates follow through on left wing wants. If they dont we wont show up. just like any other self interested group, and no we wont vote for you to just protect minority groups because we have other tools at our disposal for that.
But then you saw how courting the right wing turned out for harris. you dont really have anywhere else to go but to us. Best you start learning how to play nice.
i’m glad you admitted it
the far left hyped up gaza into a toxic wedge issue designed to make the dems look just as bad as trump on all sorts of issues. so the left was split and stayed home
trump voters sure are getting what they were promised huh?
well i guess they have herded up a few poor immigrants for show and sold out to russia. as for the rest the far right propaganda machine was peddling? i think they might be disappointed
the center republicans that are now having panic attacks over the sacking of their government and explosion of their economy may well vote dem without any encouragement from liz cheney
Admitted what? that democrats and the DNC are toxic shit stains not worth the time to vote for? Yes, i’ve been explaining that to people for years. Or that the DNC has no voters to turn to but the left wing which they’ve been shitting on for decades?
And no, trump and republicans didnt change that equation. its just unfortunate, though unsurprising, timing due to the absolute trash governance provided by the politicians for both parties.
lol. that’s a mighty fine fever dream you have there. the MAGA adjacent in the circles I monitor are not even batting an eye at whats going on.
believing there’s nothing worth voting for is why trump got in, which is demonstrably worse in every way
If you wanted harris to win you should have held her feet to the fire over gaza/backing biden/no offer any substantial policy for the working class.
Its time you sit down and learn from what happened or it will continue to happen. and you really don’t have the time to learn.
Working class americans will not vote for a candidate if they don’t have anything to offer, the left wing will not show up for you if you’re enabling a genocide.
This is not a my stance is the only logical stance argument, which is a fundamentally flawed approach from the get go because you’re arguing with assumptions the group you’re trying to convince do not hold or care about. for example, that I in any way care that trump won or in any way feel responsible for the outcome. Am I sadden by whats happening? absolutely, but not enough to support a candidate who was enabling a genocide and gaslighting the working class.
I care that the people I elect will deliver on my values. if your party isnt going to deliver on my values I’m not going to support them. You better start getting these facts through your head or your party is going to keep losing elections.
you didn’t want harris or trump to win which made you part of the problem
taking votes away from harris and electing fascism
I didnt take a vote from harris (you literally cant take a vote from a candidate, only give), but semantics. Nor did my vote change the outcome in my state. But yes, we agree, people like me are why harris lost. Time for you move on to the next stage of reasoning.
Now how are you going to get me to vote for your candidate. Its my vote after all.
Think hard now, i know this is difficult for you, you’re not alone the dnc has the same lack of logical reasoning you and your ilk have demonstrated repeatedly.
Go ahead, lay out all the information you know so far from this conversation (bullet point format) and draw some logical conclusions. I have faith in you!
And then answer this simple question: what didnt harris do?
aww that’s cute i think you finally worked out the toddler level arithmetic of the situation. let’s see if we can work on your logic
i don’t think you’ll ever vote for the dems and i don’t think you care that trump got in
the only ones you criticize are the dems. you just want to watch the US burn
ironically the only ones you’re hurting by not supporting the dems are the working class and palestinians
Uh huh, way to avoid addressing the point being made about how utterly fucking retarded your world view is about voting and how it leads to facism. Let me clear, I’m wasting my time with you because I do give a shit harris lost, I’m demonstrating to you the issues that need to be addressed and your thought processes exactly mirror the DNC and its why they keep losing.
The problem is you thinking you can just say ‘my candidate is shitty but better than the other guy!’ and think people have to vote for them, never mind the fact they won’t even get out of bed for such a wonderful selling point. Fun fact: most people in america are:
The fact you refuse to answer a very basic and simple question is because you know in your heart I’m correct. Harris and the DNC has been fucking around for literally 3 decades (more really) and not putting forth the work they’ve needed to put forward in order to win votes. people have had enough and they’re done or they’re indifferent.
How will you earn my vote (and by extension, other american’s vote) so your preferred candidates will win?