• raoulduke85@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    Trump literally said he was for banning guns to people who are mentally unstable. When they rewrite what mentally unstable means, it means if you’re trans, lgtbq, take antidepressants, antipsychotics, anxiety…

    Also, us liberals are buying guns faster than MAGAts. We don’t fuck around.

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      I mean I wouldn’t trust myself with a gun and I’m not even on antidepressants… So uh yeah probably don’t give me one but that does also apply to transphobes and pretty much everybody else, who isn’t a hunter by trade or just uses them at shooting ranges and keeps them there.

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      7 days ago

      Wait, are you suggesting that taking antidepressants, antipsychotics, or having anxiety aren’t forms of mental instability? That’s quite literally the definition. Seems super reasonable that we wouldn’t want someone in that position to own a firearm.

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        Maybe you don’t know what the fuck mental instability means? Someone could have some anxiety and not have to be put in a hospital because they may hurt themselves or others. I wonder if the J6 ers took anxiety meds or were trans? Id feel safer next to someone who takes antidepressants than a J6er.

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          I have pretty extensive experience with someone who is high functioning bipolar. She’s an incredible person, someone I trust immensely and respect the hell out of. She takes the lowest dose possible of an anti-psychotic. She’s great 99% of the time. Every once in a while, for no explicable reason (this is according to her) she drops into a depression where she wants to take her own life. She truly can’t explain why, and once we’ve ridden through it, she’s back to being her wonderful self. I have seen this cycle play out MANY times and have needed to help stabilize her most of those times. She absolutely should not have a gun. Up until the point that she was properly diagnosed as being bipolar she was incorrectly diagnosed as having depression and medicated in accordance with that. She had two suicide attempts during that time. Again, she should ABSOLUTELY not have a gun.

          Pardon me for saying this, but YOU don’t know what the fuck YOU’RE talking about. Mental health issues come in many shapes and sizes, but the common thread is a lack of stability and predictable function. In no way is this a judgement of the person, I would choose my person a million times over, but you’re an absolute fool if you think that stability and predictability should not be requisites for gun ownership. All it takes is once.

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        7 days ago

        I’m trying to think of a way to phrase this that you might understand…

        Let’s say your left arm is weaker than your right arm, because you only yank your hog with your right hand. Your left arm isn’t unstable, but it has some weakness compared to your normal nightly lover. But if you got that left hand a textured glove, then it would be just as good as righty. Maybe even better because you do like the variety.

        That’s what antidepressants are. They’re a small kick in the serotonin to get people to feel normal.

        Mentally unstable isn’t that. Unstable are the people with rage issues. You know the ones. You’ll hang out with them sometimes, but if they’re going too hard at the bar, you duck out early because they’re gonna do something stupid.

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          I have pretty extensive experience with someone who is high functioning bipolar. She’s an incredible person, someone I trust immensely and respect the hell out of. She takes the lowest dose possible of an anti-psychotic. She’s great 99% of the time. Every once in a while, for no explicable reason (this is according to her) she drops into a depression where she wants to take her own life. She truly can’t explain why, and once we’ve ridden through it, she’s back to being her wonderful self. I have seen this cycle play out MANY times and have needed to help stabilize her most of those times. She absolutely should not have a gun. Up until the point that she was properly diagnosed as being bipolar she was incorrectly diagnosed as having depression and medicated in accordance with that. She had two suicide attempts during that time. Again, she should ABSOLUTELY not have a gun.

          Mental health issues come in many shapes and sizes, but the common thread is a lack of stability and predictable function. In no way is this a judgement of the person, I would choose my person a million times over, but you’re an absolute fool if you think that stability and predictability should not be requisites for gun ownership. All it takes is once.

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            Lack of stability and predictability? I disagree. Maybe for some, but not nearly all.

            I’m neurodivergent. I have ADHD. when I’m unmedicated, I struggle to pay attention. It’s debilitating, but in no way unstable or dangerous or modifies my judgement. It’s also quite predictable. It’s very simply a deficit of executive function, nothing more.

            So you’re wrong. By the simple fact that I’m not unique.

            Maybe try painting with a more narrow brush.

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      8 days ago

      if only we lived in a time where we had to worry more about kids shooting up Tesla dealerships rather than schools… where did we go wrong?