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    Look at this closely people.This is the misinformation campaign for the election.

    Both sides support this war, this stance that a republican would do anything different is laughable.

    This is the rhetoric that will be blasted all around social media creating a bullshit narrative of a rational liberal “taking the high ground” and encouraging others to follow by voting blue for everyone but Joe Biden.

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      I’ve been seeing a lot of this lately and I agree, it definitely feels like an astroturf campaign.

      Most single issue voters are focused on domestic issues such as abortion or the economy. And you would think that someone who cares so much about Israel would also be worried about other aspects of foreign policy such as Ukraine.

      The whole premise is ridiculous. And I think it speaks to Biden’s success as a president that this is the best campaign they can come up with.

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        It’s meant to keep voting democrats that are on the fence at home.

        It’s not just voicing distaste, it’s providing a rational justification to this voter pool which appeals to a “morality of the left” mindset of not voting for a candidate because of singular issues even though the totality of the candidate is much better than the alternative.

        It’s also providing a bad-faith argument. Another Trump presidency would completely back this and potentially fuel an internal racial cleansing once the cult gets new talking points on who the bad people are.

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            Meant to do something?

            Not your comments, the other’s comments.

            Do you believe other people reading about my opinion will sway them?

            Yes I believe that there are people who will make decision opinion based on the social media discourse they read in the coming months. I would estimate its 15% of the voting population.

            A bad faith argument would be to say that there are only 2 choices, but that really there is only one choice.

            It is a bad faith argument because regardless of who is president, American Congressional support for Israel will continue. The original poster implied that by not voting, genocide would be avoided.

            Vote hard cuz I won’t

            Cool, if you’re not voting your opinion doesn’t matter.

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      Okay, then by that logic, why is Biden helping Trump get elected by playing into this strategy?

      Like I said, Biden has betrayed me over and over, but like a beaten dog I will crawl back to him if he just does this one thing. That’s all I’m asking for. It would be so easy for Biden to get my vote. It’s entirely in his hands. Yet he won’t do it. Why? Why is he determined to help Trump win?

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        The outcome will not change regardless of who is President because Congress is beholden to the defense industry and will always support selling weapons.

        So no one is helping anyone win because the outcome is the same. If this is your true opinion, get your head out of your ass and see the big picture. Otherwise, fuck you for trying to spread facism.

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          The outcome will not change regardless of who is President because Congress is beholden to the defense industry and will always support selling weapons.

          Sounds like Democracy is already broken then. Remind me what I’m supposed to be defending here?

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              A fascist regime today is better than one tomorrow. You people have no idea how to change trajectory here you just tell us to keep kicking the can as the country slides to the right. It’s pathetic.

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          … if that’s true, then elections don’t matter in the first place! What the fuck?

          If the outcome will not change regardless of who is President, why are you crawling up my dick about refusing to vote for Biden?

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              That’s more reasonable.

              I still think you’re wrong, I think Biden can be forced to endorse a ceasefire because politicians actually do care about elections. Right now the Biden team believes that Democrats are loyal to the core and can be counted to vote blue no matter who, there’s zero incentive to endorse a ceasefire. Why bother? He can do anything he wants to you and you’ll still vote for him. They’ve basically said as much.

              And do you realize what that does? That’s not a “single issue”. Biden broke the railroad strike. Biden approved the Willow oil and gas pipeline project. Biden has fought to keep Trump’s COVID border policies, despite basically giving up entirely on controlling the spread of the virus otherwise. Biden allowed Manchin to stonewall almost everything when there was a huge Democratic majority.

              By voting blue no matter who, you have enabled Biden to completely ignore the demands of his own base. You’re enabling genocide.

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              Biden is an actual Zionist!

              I guess we’ll see if we have a war with Iran by November or not. It doesn’t look good!