Something which is entirely cloud means the application is accessible from the browser. Cloud based could mean portion of the application is on the cloud. This is the technical answer.
But if an application requires cloud to function properly, it’s practically a cloud app.
i am confident that everyone in this discussion understands technically what is happening. the contention is, for reasons i cannot comprehend, that apparently “connects to and cannot function without the internet” is somehow the same as “offline”.
I’m not sure if people are purposefully being ignorant, but this shit is crazy…
There’s a serious difference between having an entire application in a cloud environment (office365) and an entire application on your local PC (office) with the inability to save locally… That’s not a server/client setup.
For the life of me I cannot understand why everyone here is being seemingly as disingenuous as possible. It’s honestly fucked up.
It’s not disingenuous. There’s multiple definitions of “offline” being used here, and just because some people aren’t using yours doesn’t mean they’re ignorant or arguing in bad faith.
Your definition of “offline” is encompassing just the executable code. So under that definition, sure, it’s offline. But I wouldn’t call an application “offline” if it requires an internet connection for any core feature of the application. And I call saving my document a core feature of a word processor. Since I wouldn’t call it “offline” I’m not sure what I would call it, but something closer to “local” or “native” to distinguish it from a cloud based application with a browser or other frontend.
Isn’t that worse though? They use your computing power but they still get the data :). At least with cloud apps you get the benefit of not having to run the app locally (this was the idea behind low powered chromebooks).
An offline version with ads and no ability to store data locally sounds like an online version to me.
I think here, offline refers to the non-cloud based approach…
What is OneDrive if not cloud-based?
Cloud-cringe
You’re using cloud based storage. That’s not the same as having the entire application in the cloud…
This is a completely disingenuous argument.
Pick one.
Something which is entirely cloud means the application is accessible from the browser. Cloud based could mean portion of the application is on the cloud. This is the technical answer.
But if an application requires cloud to function properly, it’s practically a cloud app.
A server/client solution is absolutely not offline. You need a connection to save your doc, I mean please.
microsoft released a single-player game, “microsoft office”.
it runs offline, but you cannot save games locally at all. can only save games or progress to the ‘cloud’.
i am confident that everyone in this discussion understands technically what is happening. the contention is, for reasons i cannot comprehend, that apparently “connects to and cannot function without the internet” is somehow the same as “offline”.
I’m not sure if people are purposefully being ignorant, but this shit is crazy…
There’s a serious difference between having an entire application in a cloud environment (office365) and an entire application on your local PC (office) with the inability to save locally… That’s not a server/client setup.
For the life of me I cannot understand why everyone here is being seemingly as disingenuous as possible. It’s honestly fucked up.
If you can’t use it without a connection to the cloud, it’s cloud based.
What you mean by not cloud based is that it’s a native application rather than a webapp.
What others mean by not cloud based is that it can be used… Without the cloud being involved.
It’s not disingenuous. There’s multiple definitions of “offline” being used here, and just because some people aren’t using yours doesn’t mean they’re ignorant or arguing in bad faith.
Your definition of “offline” is encompassing just the executable code. So under that definition, sure, it’s offline. But I wouldn’t call an application “offline” if it requires an internet connection for any core feature of the application. And I call saving my document a core feature of a word processor. Since I wouldn’t call it “offline” I’m not sure what I would call it, but something closer to “local” or “native” to distinguish it from a cloud based application with a browser or other frontend.
Can you define offline.
This is the argument you are purposely ignoring.
Isn’t that worse though? They use your computing power but they still get the data :). At least with cloud apps you get the benefit of not having to run the app locally (this was the idea behind low powered chromebooks).