You may not like their posts but that doesn’t automatically make them a troll. If they’re trying to get a reaction, then yes, but sometimes, these “trolls” aren’t even trolls
It’s easier to insult someone you disagree with than to have a rational, intelligent discussion.
I remember one time I was arguing with some guy about I don’t remember what but I left to do real-life stuff and didn’t check Lemmy for like 2-3 days and came back to find him arguing with someone else and being adamant that I created another account just to make it seem like more people disagreed with him. Some people prefer to make shit up than to face that they might actually be wrong.
If the"trolls"are just people with different opinions, it’s to discredit them.
Calling someone a troll is admitting you lost the argument, in my mind.
i don’t. i see plenty of trolls whom i agree with, they are just dicks about it obviously looking to get a rise out of people.
i treat them the same way as all trolls: ignore, downvote, block, report if against the rulez. not that hard nor complicated.
Makes sense, I’m talking about people who call everyone a troll and complain about it.
At least you’re not like that
I feel like the amount of actual trolls and bad-faith posters made many people hyper vigilant about anything that looks like a potential bait. The general polarization also causes people to react more rashly rather than approaching something in good faith and responding in polite and constructive manner.
That’s not to say everyone is irrational and wrong about how they react but it really does seem like some would rather yell at any sign of opposition or doubt instead of talking it out. It’s an unfortunate result of the times we live in, to some extent.
Many people do not understand how to politely disagree. Sometimes they will accuse people of things because they cannot properly communicate their views
Also fragility.
Oh I’ll bring the popcorn
Ive had people call me a troll or a trump supporter because I think the democrats are also bad for supporting genocide. I think these people are just brutally stupid. That’s the only reason I can think of for someone not being able to fathom that I don’t like genocide.
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I am not in support of ANY genocide. I am much more upset with genocides that MY COUNTRY is complicit in, and that I can actually help to stop. Don’t be a fucking idiot.
Got it. The only genocides you care about are the ones that require you not to vote Democrat in 2024.
I do not believe the poster said anything of the sort. Where are you getting this information?
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Im not engaging with your bad faith argument bullshit.
It’s not a bad faith argument. You don’t like genocide. China is doing what you don’t like to the Uighurs. One can only presume that you don’t buy products made in China, since that funnels money and power to the Chinese government.
Unless it’s just the one genocide you don’t like.
Bipartisan propaganda against China does not restrain itself in making black/white genocide accusations that are more political than factual. Xinxang is quite prosperous now after the most historically humane response to counter terrorism. There are no improvement/success/peace metrics to make US stop shit talking China.
When was the last time you even tried to live without buying anything built by exploited labor, abusive extraction processes, and run by oligarchs? You can’t. It would maybe look like a hunter-gatherer or maybe a primitive pastoral life. It is literally impossible for any of us to be having this discussion in this medium without some of exploitation and/or abuse. There is no moral consumption under capitalism, hell probably even impossible under any globalism.
So fuck right the fuck off with your sanctimonious bullshit.
By your logic then if you voted for democrats or republicans then you like genocide.
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Whataboutery much?
Not at all. When someone claims that they don’t like genocide, but only ever makes noise about the one they can use to get fascists elected, I think that’s relevant.
And a troll casually walks into the bar
we needed an example subject XD
How often do the ughurs come up vs the Israel/Gaza conflict?
Exactly.
It’s a pattern of behavior. If a user spends their time nitpicking every minor detail of a comment, but seems to be incapable of understanding that other people have different ideas, or worse purposefully parses someone’s language incorrectly just to continue an argument back and forth without any progress or even a desire to see a resolution, only wanting to have the last word, I consider that to be trolling. Nobody has benefited from the interaction, and everybody leaves frustrated, annoyed, and only further entrenched in their original position.
I think people have pretty different ideas of what behavior counts as trolling, but simply disagreeing with a user or not liking their posts doesn’t make them a troll.
My dude that’s like, 99% of Lemmy 🤣
it’s just easy for others to resort to their headcanons than waste time and braincells for anything that they think don’t benefit them.
being open and understanding is hard work yo
Too many people don’t know what trolling actually is, and also assume anything said to them is hostile.
Trolling implies intent. Are they trying to piss you off, or are you just being an over sensitive little bitch?
Some times Person A can be so fallacious or incorrect, Person B may assume they’re intentionally wasting time by trolling, doubting that Person A is actually unintentionally that incompetent or incapable of discourse.
This usually starts when Person A ignores what Person B has said or starts applying common argument fallacies, seemingly for the sake of being right as a priority over empathising or broadening perspective.
Of my many years socialising on the Internet, it should be very rare to be called a troll; so much so that if it happens, it’s likely I’m being a total twat entirely out of touch with reality. So, if you’re finding this happens to you regularly, it may be food for thought to at least listen/read what someone is saying and ponder on it before responding. If you start wasting their time, prepare tocontinue being called a troll.
Because it’s trolls more often than not.
Fair enough
It’s probably an easier pill to swallow than the idea that someone might have valid reasons to disagree with them.
I think this is the best answer here. I see this happen constantly in online discussions.